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		<title>By: Bookmarks about Intell</title>
		<link>http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/social-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookmarks about Intell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - bookmarked by 1 members originally found by damace on 2008-09-28  Forget the tech, you need social intelligence  http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/social-intelligence/ - bookmarked by 5 members originally [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; bookmarked by 1 members originally found by damace on 2008-09-28  Forget the tech, you need social intelligence  <a href="http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/social-intelligence/" rel="nofollow">http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/social-intelligence/</a> &#8211; bookmarked by 5 members originally [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Kistner</title>
		<link>http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/social-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-510</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Kistner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting usage of social intelligence&#8212;business intelligence applied to the social web. I agree that one&#039;s ability to not only consume the vast amount of data generated on the social web, but to also process that data into useful, actionable information determines how effective one can be at socializing. I think we&#039;ll see a lot more innovation in the intelligence space applied to the social arena. I&#039;ve been referring to that as an attention management problem, which is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/the-3-stages-of-growth-in-the-social-media-participant-learning-curve/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the second tier of development in a social media participants growth cycle&lt;/a&gt;.

It still requires that one has the interpersonal skills in order to leverage that data, especially if the participant has business objectives their seeking to accomplish. I can see a whole segment of professionals scraping their knees as they blurt out analytical data in socially awkward ways.

Similarly, all the social skills in the world don&#039;t matter if you don&#039;t know where to plug yourself into the conversation!! I&#039;m going to check out some of the links you posted here.

Thanks for sharing this insightful perspective, Francisco!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting usage of social intelligence&mdash;business intelligence applied to the social web. I agree that one&#8217;s ability to not only consume the vast amount of data generated on the social web, but to also process that data into useful, actionable information determines how effective one can be at socializing. I think we&#8217;ll see a lot more innovation in the intelligence space applied to the social arena. I&#8217;ve been referring to that as an attention management problem, which is <a href="http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/the-3-stages-of-growth-in-the-social-media-participant-learning-curve/" rel="nofollow">the second tier of development in a social media participants growth cycle</a>.</p>
<p>It still requires that one has the interpersonal skills in order to leverage that data, especially if the participant has business objectives their seeking to accomplish. I can see a whole segment of professionals scraping their knees as they blurt out analytical data in socially awkward ways.</p>
<p>Similarly, all the social skills in the world don&#8217;t matter if you don&#8217;t know where to plug yourself into the conversation!! I&#8217;m going to check out some of the links you posted here.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing this insightful perspective, Francisco!</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco</title>
		<link>http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/social-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for Social Intelligence and benefiting the end users with it.  IMO, Social Intelligence can have two flavors on the Social Web.

The first, the basic behavior of groups of people and benefiting from that behavior, which is typically perceived by users via things like ratings, # of times something is accessed, etc.  But this leaves the user to apply a lot of eye balling to get the most value across multiple samples, say across social networks, blogs, forums, etc: how is the BMW 7 series rated among many of these.  Man, that&#039;s a lot of work.  I don&#039;t know about you, but that is hard, I don&#039;t have time for that.  But it is what it is, yeah, we can aggregate etc, but it still takes a lot of eye balling.  Can this be automated?  Yup, but it&#039;s freaking hard.

The second, is applying this social intelligence to benefit end users of business applications.  No, not managers, who cares about them :-)  I&#039;m talking about the grunt loosing sleep trying to make deadlines or achieve their sales quota.  Take a look at what we are doing at Oracle&#039;s Social CRM Applications (http://blogs.oracle.com/socialcrm/2008/07/social_intelligence.html).  The basic premise is that we CAN apply business intelligence (BI) to analyze past behaviors and provide that to end users so they can do something with it.  So what? I say.  Well, how about applying similar BI tech for predictive analytics to help guide users in what ever decision they are going to take, say follow a sales lead, or purchase a product?  That&#039;s pretty cool &#039;cause the rep doesn&#039;t have to hunt down stuff, it&#039;s served up to them, a huge time savings and s/he benefits from the crowd (http://blogs.oracle.com/socialcrm/2008/07/why_sales_reps_are_social.html).  But, why stop there, that&#039;s just business intelligence!!!!  Isn&#039;t it?  Well, how about capturing the here and now, that&#039;s something that BI can&#039;t capture because it generally requires a lot of data to spot patterns and trends.  How about if the predictive engine took into account anecdotal knowledge of the users of the social web to add value to the users?  An example is taking into account current events, such as the California fires to sell more insurance, or Katrina a few years ago to sell more flood insurance that the predictive engines would completely miss?  Now, you&#039;re talking...the sum of business analytics + predictive analytics + anecdotal social knowledge = social intelligence...in computer speak, not psychological speak such as Daniel Colman points out in his book...I&#039;m not psychologist, but I can use computers to do the dirty work for me w/o all that studying so I can benefit from Social Network behavior without getting tired of reading endless amount of info on the Social Web :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for Social Intelligence and benefiting the end users with it.  IMO, Social Intelligence can have two flavors on the Social Web.</p>
<p>The first, the basic behavior of groups of people and benefiting from that behavior, which is typically perceived by users via things like ratings, # of times something is accessed, etc.  But this leaves the user to apply a lot of eye balling to get the most value across multiple samples, say across social networks, blogs, forums, etc: how is the BMW 7 series rated among many of these.  Man, that&#8217;s a lot of work.  I don&#8217;t know about you, but that is hard, I don&#8217;t have time for that.  But it is what it is, yeah, we can aggregate etc, but it still takes a lot of eye balling.  Can this be automated?  Yup, but it&#8217;s freaking hard.</p>
<p>The second, is applying this social intelligence to benefit end users of business applications.  No, not managers, who cares about them <img src='http://www.justinkistner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;m talking about the grunt loosing sleep trying to make deadlines or achieve their sales quota.  Take a look at what we are doing at Oracle&#8217;s Social CRM Applications (<a href="http://blogs.oracle.com/socialcrm/2008/07/social_intelligence.html)" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.oracle.com/socialcrm/2008/07/social_intelligence.html)</a>.  The basic premise is that we CAN apply business intelligence (BI) to analyze past behaviors and provide that to end users so they can do something with it.  So what? I say.  Well, how about applying similar BI tech for predictive analytics to help guide users in what ever decision they are going to take, say follow a sales lead, or purchase a product?  That&#8217;s pretty cool &#8217;cause the rep doesn&#8217;t have to hunt down stuff, it&#8217;s served up to them, a huge time savings and s/he benefits from the crowd (<a href="http://blogs.oracle.com/socialcrm/2008/07/why_sales_reps_are_social.html)" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.oracle.com/socialcrm/2008/07/why_sales_reps_are_social.html)</a>.  But, why stop there, that&#8217;s just business intelligence!!!!  Isn&#8217;t it?  Well, how about capturing the here and now, that&#8217;s something that BI can&#8217;t capture because it generally requires a lot of data to spot patterns and trends.  How about if the predictive engine took into account anecdotal knowledge of the users of the social web to add value to the users?  An example is taking into account current events, such as the California fires to sell more insurance, or Katrina a few years ago to sell more flood insurance that the predictive engines would completely miss?  Now, you&#8217;re talking&#8230;the sum of business analytics + predictive analytics + anecdotal social knowledge = social intelligence&#8230;in computer speak, not psychological speak such as Daniel Colman points out in his book&#8230;I&#8217;m not psychologist, but I can use computers to do the dirty work for me w/o all that studying so I can benefit from Social Network behavior without getting tired of reading endless amount of info on the Social Web <img src='http://www.justinkistner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ambient Identity: Watch Your Self &#124; Roy Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/social-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambient Identity: Watch Your Self &#124; Roy Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about how that might affect his future employment only after the fact). My man Justin Kistner points out that we need to keep all of our old real-world knowledge in mind when socializing online, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about how that might affect his future employment only after the fact). My man Justin Kistner points out that we need to keep all of our old real-world knowledge in mind when socializing online, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Kistner</title>
		<link>http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/social-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Kistner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, David! I&#039;m looking for that conversation now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, David! I&#8217;m looking for that conversation now.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/social-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, there&#039;s a conversation you might find really interesting between Daniel Goleman and Clay Shirky about the applications of Social Intelligence to Web Society. It&#039;s available at www.morethansound.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, there&#8217;s a conversation you might find really interesting between Daniel Goleman and Clay Shirky about the applications of Social Intelligence to Web Society. It&#8217;s available at <a href="http://www.morethansound.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.morethansound.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Norman Bates</title>
		<link>http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/social-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>Norman Bates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i beg to differ ms. reed:

- contributing to open source is probably the best way for engineers to build portfolio, to make more money (and if it&#039;s not the best way, then the best way is having built something that makes a ton of money)

- wikipedia exists because jimmy wales a) is smart and b) was trying to get rich (and/or laid) by doing something valuable (in terms of social or financial capital)

sex = ultimate social capital
profit = ultimate financial capital

i salute you, mr. diggles!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i beg to differ ms. reed:</p>
<p>- contributing to open source is probably the best way for engineers to build portfolio, to make more money (and if it&#8217;s not the best way, then the best way is having built something that makes a ton of money)</p>
<p>- wikipedia exists because jimmy wales a) is smart and b) was trying to get rich (and/or laid) by doing something valuable (in terms of social or financial capital)</p>
<p>sex = ultimate social capital<br />
profit = ultimate financial capital</p>
<p>i salute you, mr. diggles!</p>
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		<title>By: Kyra Reed</title>
		<link>http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/social-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyra Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i beg to differ mr. diggles, if it all came down to sex and money we wouldn&#039;t have open source, wikipedia or any other innovations that come from the new web.  justin, thank you for this article.  it is a great challenge to translate social skills on a local and person to person level to a global, virtual one.  i look forward to reading about your challenges in this area in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i beg to differ mr. diggles, if it all came down to sex and money we wouldn&#8217;t have open source, wikipedia or any other innovations that come from the new web.  justin, thank you for this article.  it is a great challenge to translate social skills on a local and person to person level to a global, virtual one.  i look forward to reading about your challenges in this area in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: mr. diggles</title>
		<link>http://www.justinkistner.com/archive/social-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>mr. diggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everything comes down to money and sex. 

pull the plug on the web - and this truth will remain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everything comes down to money and sex. </p>
<p>pull the plug on the web &#8211; and this truth will remain.</p>
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